http://www.arrache.org/forum/tags/iphone-case-manufacturer Arrache discussion forums en-US Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:59:23 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.arrache.org/forum/search.php http://www.arrache.org/forum/topic/i-think-i-know-how-bessler-did-it#post-230 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 02:42:10 +0000 Grimer 230@http://www.arrache.org/forum/ <p>Unbalanced </p> <p>There are no closed systems.</p> <p>Cheers</p> <p>Frank </p> http://www.arrache.org/forum/topic/i-think-i-know-how-bessler-did-it#post-225 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:15:39 +0000 eewhite4 225@http://www.arrache.org/forum/ <p>Curtis,</p> <p> Some sort of re-cycling mechanism. That's what I'm working on too, although it's hard to get the right sort of arrangement. The design I was working on did not look that good after i gave it some more thought. unfortunately I already had some of the parts made.</p> <p>The thing that stopped me was reflected torque. I had not considered that the last part of the gear train was still unbalanced and running at a multiple dis-advantage from the gear ratio.</p> <p>Also the Bessler wheel was not very efficient as far as how much the wheel weighed in comparison to how much weight it could lift. </p> <p>Gotta go for now and I will keep checking back....</p> <p>EW </p> http://www.arrache.org/forum/topic/i-think-i-know-how-bessler-did-it#post-223 Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:11:53 +0000 Unbalanced 223@http://www.arrache.org/forum/ <p>Welcome Earl White,</p> <p>Though this is a good example of gravity doing work in an open environment, getting gravity to do work in a closed system is a harder nut to crack, it is the hurdle to our ultimate success. The focus of my current research is in utilizing the combined force of 99% of the weights to raise 1% of the weights in a blink of the eye. </p> <p>Curtis </p> http://www.arrache.org/forum/topic/i-think-i-know-how-bessler-did-it#post-222 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:28:35 +0000 Anonymous 222@http://www.arrache.org/forum/ <p>eewhite4</p> <p>Welcome to the forum. </p> <p>Your planetary observations are well understood, and are always good someone will bring this up from time to time. How to capitalize on this in a mechanical since is a good direction to look at. Keeping an open mind and good observation is key. IMO</p> <p>Alan </p> http://www.arrache.org/forum/topic/i-think-i-know-how-bessler-did-it#post-221 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:05:24 +0000 eewhite4 221@http://www.arrache.org/forum/ <p>Gentlemen,</p> <p> Very interesting discussion. If I can add my two cents worth-- I was trying to come up with an example of gravity doing "work" It is my understanding that work as it is defined by the physics textbooks is defined as a force being applied to an object and moving it over a distance. See if the following seems to fit the definition. A scientific satellite is launched from earth with the intention of having it pass close by as many planets as possible on the way out of the solar system. In order for the trip to be as speedy as possible, the trajectory was carefully chosen to cause the satellite to pass close behind several planets in an ever increasing radius where the gravitational force of each succeeding planet would for a short time pull the satellite along behind it thereby accelerating the satellite to speeds far greater than were originally obtained from the initial rocket launch. I think the satellite (Voyager) is still proceeding outbound into deep space and the gravity assisted launch was a success.</p> <p>So the example contains all the necessary ingredients to do work. The mass of the satellite, the distance moved (from earth to outer space) the acceleration involved, and time elapsed. So I would venture to say that work had to be done on the satellite to get it to the speed and distance that it has now attained, and the only other influence besides the initial launch power was the gravity of the other planets. </p> http://www.arrache.org/forum/topic/i-think-i-know-how-bessler-did-it#post-209 Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:22:40 +0000 Anonymous 209@http://www.arrache.org/forum/ <p>Greetings Richard</p> <p>I like how you put your last paragraph. What is bad I am normally exhausted by the time I read the forum it becomes hard to think. </p> <p>Alan </p> http://www.arrache.org/forum/topic/i-think-i-know-how-bessler-did-it#post-207 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 14:03:27 +0000 Rwashburn 207@http://www.arrache.org/forum/ <p>Hello Alan</p> <p>Fair enough..."G=E" so then at least you and I are (armchair physist) really how is that any different than " theoretical physics ". there is curvature of space/time and there are curve balls...I'll throw the later at you...Suppose we Tap the Gravity Grid; Does the world want this new energy? Is it taboo? Is there a market. Bessler sums up the tecnology quite proficiently..."..I fear that when people see it they will say that there really is not much art to it...and that it really isn't worth that much.. We have gravity in Our designs ( not boasting, rather; its a bland fact.) what do we do now? The questions can be rhetorical or postulated..I would like to know if " Arrache" finds merit in my submissions.</p> <p>Alan.."Perpetual conversion" of energy...There is no conservation laws aginst this that I am aware of....whats your take on that? energy can not be created or destroyed but can be converted...if this is the empirical we face then the scientific community must show us that perpetual conversion is not possible and if they can not...then any conversion that leads to rotation must prove Besslers wheel as a " Perpetual"</p> <p>richard </p> http://www.arrache.org/forum/topic/i-think-i-know-how-bessler-did-it#post-206 Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:09:08 +0000 Anonymous 206@http://www.arrache.org/forum/ <p>Hello Richard</p> <p> Mine is (LOL) G=E and Einstein's is E=mc2 I think that is why science is afraid of G=E</p> <p>Another thing is, it takes energy to make a magnet. Energy to make a magnet? Energy can not be destroyed but can only be changed. So if it takes energy to create a force it can be changed back into energy.</p> <p>This is my belief. G=E</p> <p>Alan </p> http://www.arrache.org/forum/topic/i-think-i-know-how-bessler-did-it#post-204 Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:45:56 +0000 Rwashburn 204@http://www.arrache.org/forum/ <p>Not much towards the wheel...but an interesting thought. Newtonian physics will be able to (digest) our new found energy source,( gravity); however this does present a problem for relativity....Einstien did not allow for gravity to be recognized as a "Force". In relativistic physics gravitational influence is stated to be a curvature of a space time continuum, and (specifically) not a force...Doesn't it take a force to perform work? that is a real question, please feel free to correct me. need help please..if you know..Perpetual motion is ruled out by the first law of thermodynamics, but it is always referenced as the first law of "closed systems" and I have never seen perpetual motion ruled impossible by the first law of thermaldynamics in an "open system"...in other words Perpetual conversion of energy in an Open System is not impossible, but I can find nothing on this..not even on wiki..can you point me in the right direction. </p> http://www.arrache.org/forum/topic/i-think-i-know-how-bessler-did-it#post-203 Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:38:33 +0000 Rwashburn 203@http://www.arrache.org/forum/ <p>Of course i may be blinded by expectation...none the less when I compare our Bessler design it seems to me it stacks up well aginst the portal clues.....??</p> <p>thanx<br /> richard </p> http://www.arrache.org/forum/topic/i-think-i-know-how-bessler-did-it#post-199 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:38:34 +0000 Ralphlortie 199@http://www.arrache.org/forum/ <p>Richard,</p> <p>A letter of recommended procedures has been mailed to you. It is at your discretion as to what you wish to release to the registered and general members here.</p> <p>Ralph </p> http://www.arrache.org/forum/topic/i-think-i-know-how-bessler-did-it#post-198 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:22:06 +0000 Rwashburn 198@http://www.arrache.org/forum/ <p>Ralphlortie you told me, honesty and integrity..Alan, Jamie, Curtis<br /> I've drawn the design on my paint program I am 99.9 percent certain..I find no flaws in this design..I think when you view it you will be as numb as I feel right now..How do I and we proceed </p>